{"id":1813,"date":"2005-12-13T21:50:38","date_gmt":"2005-12-13T19:50:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.fullo.net\/blog\/?p=1813"},"modified":"2005-12-13T21:53:30","modified_gmt":"2005-12-13T19:53:30","slug":"jacob-nielsen-ed-i-frame-ehm-ajax","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fullo.net\/blog\/2005\/12\/13\/jacob-nielsen-ed-i-frame-ehm-ajax\/","title":{"rendered":"Jacob Nielsen ed i frame.. ehm ajax"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pare che Jacob Nielsen abbia le idee chiare sul <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usabilityviews.com\/ajaxsucks.html\">perch\u00e8 ajax non vada usato<\/a>&#8230; a no erano i <a href=\"http:\/\/www.useit.com\/alertbox\/9612.html\">frame<\/a>! <\/p>\n<p>In realt\u00e0 il primo articolo \u00e8 stato scritto da Chris McEvoy basandosi su quello di Nielsen del &#8217;96 che spiegava perch\u00e8 non usare i frames. Decisamente un  anticipatore dei tempi&#8230; ;)<\/p>\n<p>nonostante la semi-bufala resta comunque molto interessante questo punto:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Print Problems<\/strong><br \/>\nMany browsers cannot print ajax pages appropriately. Of course, most browsers don&#8217;t print anything really well, but at least regular pages normally print in full. With ajax, it is common to have the print command result in the printing of a single column. 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